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November 19, 2007

UNSUBUSCRIBE ME RIGHT NOW!

Since March of 2000 I've been wrestling to find a way to bring honesty back to the sales profession without pissing people off. So I wrote a ton of articles and my first book and crafted a bunch of speeches all geared toward one thing, showing salespeople ways to be honest and achieve the sales results they want.

Most of my message has been why honesty works, how-to advice or my best attempt at an even-handed evaluation of available sales systems. And while I've been thanked for that positive advice and have made a decent living, I must admit that I have completely failed at my big-picture mission to bring honesty and integrity back to the sales profession and thereby transform the lives of salespeople everywhere.

Buried somewhere in the pages of one of his wonderful books, Roy Williams (one of my very favorite authors) mentions you can tell that an ad will work wonders if the first responses you get are negative. The basic reason is due to a combination of factors:

  • People buy for emotional reasons, not logical ones.
  • To strike a strong emotional cord, your message must be provocative.
  • Life is a Normal Curve, so you'll get just as many negative responses to a provocative message as you will positive responses.
  • The people who hate your message almost always speak up first.

On November 12 I received this memo from Roy Williams. It could not have arrived at a more perfect time, because only two days earlier I had made the emotional decision to stop pulling punches, to call a sleaze a sleaze, to wag a finger that needed wagging, to take on the salesdrips of the world -- to "unleash the tiger," as Roy might say.

Since then I've written a half-dozen posts. The first 21 responses I received ranged from people simply unsubscribing to some who sent me wonderfully hateful e-mails. (Response number 22 came from a CEO I totally respect who told me he loved the new attitude and that I should keep it up.)

While I'll always attack the methods, rather than the person, I look forward to spending the next eight years hunting down salesdrips and eating them for lunch. Who knows, maybe I can get 50 more people to unsubscribe this week.

ROAR!


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

November 16, 2007

Walk Your Talk Or Take A Hike

In late 1996, when my partner and I first started our IT firm, I contacted one of the E-myth franchise guys to see whether his company could help me organize my company's processes -- documenting everything the way Michael Gerber discusses in his E-myth books so I could more easily grow.

At the end of my first conversation with the franchisee, he promised to follow up with a bit more information and then to call to discuss it.

I never received the information. I never received the call. As a result, I ended up going with the mentoring program of Alan Weiss, president of Summit Consulting Group, Inc.

More than seven years later, this past October 30, I got to hear Michael Gerber himself speak, and subsequently wrote a blog entry about the presentation. The part of the story I didn't report goes as follows:

Several times during Gerber's speech, he referenced his "Dreaming Room®" -- an event where he helps entrepreneurs crystallize their visions -- and told attendees of the upcoming dates so we could sign up. I was intrigued by the concept and the opportunity, so in the VIP reception that followed I handed Gerber my card.

Me: "I'm intrigued by your Dreaming Room concept and I might want to attend. Can you call me about it?"

Gerber: (with a slight gleam in his eye and small grin) "I won't promise it will be a phone call."

Me: (chuckling slightly) "Then let me rephrase. Will you please plug me into whatever process you've created to follow up with people interested in the Dreaming Room?"

Gerber: "Gladly."

Today at lunch I learned that Steven Kelly (president of MESSAGEbuzz -- a text-message marketing company) had a similar conversation with Gerber that day -- handing him a card and asking for information. It's been 17 days, we're both still waiting and we agreed that because of the lack of follow-up, neither of us would attend now if it was free.

Are you walking your talk? If not, why the hell should we?


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

November 14, 2007

Free Sales Training To U.S. Veterans

Starting with a three-day course on December 27 through 29, 2007, and repeating once a quarter, I will personally provide the full Honest Selling Masters Course for free to any U.S. veterans who want to take it.

The course is a three-day boot camp where attendees will learn:

  • The Honest Selling mindset, methodology, approach, attitude -- call it what you want.
  • Prospecting via phone and mail.
  • A half-dozen tried-and-true personal marketing strategies and how to organize their entire marketing plan for maximum success.
  • How to organize their entire sales system, from setting the appointment to closing the sale, and achieve 80 percent or higher closing rates.
  • How to sell quality products and services at quality prices and get paid for the value of what they provide.
  • How to build a massive database of people who know them, like them, trust them and will gladly help them whenever they need it.

I'll have four specific versions:

  1. December 27 through 29, 2007: For people who sell home-improvement products and services to homeowners. (Think siding, gutters, windows, remodeling, landscaping, and so forth.)
  2. March 27 through 29, 2008: For service providers who sell business-to-business. (Think attorneys, accountants, consultants, trainers, coaches, mentors and a wide variety of entrepreneurs.)
  3. June 26 through 28, 2008: For the agents and brokers of the world. (Think financial advisors, real estate agents, insurance brokers, bankers and so on.)
  4. September 25 through 27, 2008: For people who sell to engineers and whose sales process is incredibly technical and usually very long. (Think of selling lighting, highly complex computers or services, engineering services, etc.)

The above four courses will be held in St. Louis Missouri at the Grand Prix Speedways Conference Center in Earth City. (They're sponsoring by giving us the room free.) The training, breakfast, snacks and lunches all three days are free. Your travel expenses, if you have them, are on you.

All courses will be canceled if fewer than 15 people sign up and limited to 25 people at the most.

I'll also do this on the off months if a person, company or group outside of St. Louis picks up the banner and runs with it by:

  • Securing a room
  • Supplying the food for everyone
  • Finding the ex-military participants
  • Paying travel expenses for me and one assistant for the three days.

If you know ex-military personnel who want to learn a comprehensive selling system for free, please tell them to call me on my cell phone at 314-416-1440. (Use that same number if you want to sponsor this course in your city.)

Thanks,

Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

November 13, 2007

Why Sales Manipulation Will Die

I would love to tell you the deceitful, manipulative, lie-to-close-a-deal image most people have of salespeople is totally unjustified. But the undeniable truth is that far too many salespeople use underhanded, unethical and sometimes illegal tactics to set appointments and close sales. So it's no wonder prospects treat salespeople the way they do.

I would love to tell you these unscrupulous tactics don't work. But the truth is, people don't buy from people they like or people they trust, they buy from people they believe. And many unscrupulous salespeople are so adept at deceit their prospects can't tell whom to believe. (You have no idea how much I wish this weren't true.)

I would love to tell you there are tons of honest sales training approaches from which to choose, but my own research has proven otherwise. Yes, there are many who claim to deliver a "radically honest" approach, but let's not forget the "adept at deceit" point above.

On My Soapbox

Pardon me for a moment while I vent. (It's related to my last point.)

Last Friday, a colleague asked me to give him feedback on a cold-calling training program he was evaluating. On this trainer's website it states the system is a "radically honest" approach.

In his very first sample lesson, there are two times when he advises salespeople to tell outright lies.

Lie In Your Opening: His advice regarding your opening statement is to say "I'm just giving you a call to see if you folks are grappling with any issues around ..."

Give Me A Break: If this statement were true, even when the prospect replied with "Yes, we've been grappling with those issues for years and would love to hire someone to help us overcome them" your only viable action would be to thank the prospect for giving you exactly what you said you wanted and then hang up the phone.

Second Lie: His advice for how you should handle the "We already have a vendor" objection is to say: "That's not a problem. I'm not calling to replace who you currently have. I'm just calling to see if you'd be open to ..."

Give Me A Break: If you aren't calling to replace the current vendor -- in whole or in part -- then you better not be calling while on your employer's dime. Is there a human being on the planet who thinks this is true, let alone radically honest? (If his rationalization is that you aren't trying to replace the vendor at this very moment on this specific call, I'll cry bullshit right now.)

Honesty, Please: There are totally honest approaches to both cold-call opening statements and the handling of every objection on the planet. All you have to do is either decide to use them and invent them yourself, or learn them from someone else.

I would love to tell you the leaders of great companies -- companies you can normally count on for honest, ethical decisions -- do not allow the use of manipulative sales techniques. But countless hours working with sales teams, discussing sales at networking functions, interviewing and observing executives, evaluating sales training programs, and mystery shopping companies of all sizes have proved that even the most honest company executives often ignore what goes on in the sales department -- at least until someone gets caught.

I would love to tell you that behind closed doors manipulation and deceit do not permeate our profession, but the truth demonstrates the opposite.

What I am happy to tell you, however, is why sales manipulation will eventually die:

Most salespeople are basically honest people who simply haven't learned the honest way to sell. However, once they do, they will never go back.

Decisions in the corporate world are always driven by money. And in the long haul, honesty is far cheaper and far more effective when it comes to finding opportunities and closing deals. (The hard part is educating all those executives to the point where they'll give total honesty a try.)

Salespeople would rather behave ethically, plus a positive impact to the bottom line. Sounds like a match made in heaven, so instead of wasting time ...

Let's Talk Facts And Figures

To prove to the world's decision-makers that honesty is more cost effective than manipulation, let's first do a preliminary calculation of the Cost of Manipulation, shall we?

Fact: All dishonest tactics eventually stop working, because prospects get wise to the bullshit. (That's why companies must constantly retrain their salespeople.)

Figures: Into how many different sales training programs has your company invested, only to have the tactics cease working after a while? Calculate the cost of all these training programs and list it under "Failed Training Cost."

Fact: Most people are basically honest, and when you train honest people in dishonest tactics, they suffer immensely. (For example, people aren't generally reluctant to cold-call, but they are reluctant to manipulate prospects over the phone. Think about that for a minute and you'll begin to grasp why honesty solves major sales problems.) As a result of this suffering, salespeople either use the tactics they've been taught and hate themselves for doing so, or don't use them at all. Either way, their effectiveness at selling drops, and most either bail out of the profession completely or remain delegated to the bad half of the 80/20 group for their entire professional lives.

Figures: Calculate the cost of turnover of your sales team. How many people have you trained and lost? What did it cost to hire, train, support and replace them? What was the lost-opportunity cost of having a bad salesperson on the team for X months or years? Total these numbers and call them "Turnover Cost."

Fact: Sales resistance is not a natural part of the buy-sell process. It exists only when the salesperson's actions create it.

Figures: How many deals do your salespeople lose because they used even a slightly manipulative tactic and it created the sales resistance that killed the deal? Total the amount and let's call this "Sales Resistance Cost."

Fact: Prospects who see through your crap will gladly lie to your face. (Typically, this results in their stringing you along while they gather all the free education they can get you to give.)

Figures: How much time do your salespeople spend chasing non-buyers? How many deals could they close if that lost time was spent selling to prospects who will gladly tell them the truth, who want what you sell right now and who will write a check if your solution actually meets their needs? Add the cost of lost time and lost opportunities together and call it "Lying Prospects Cost."

Fact: When you attempt to manipulate a prospect and fail, you create and adversary, not an ally.

Figures: There is simply no way to put an objective number on the impact of bad word-of-mouth. But you can quantify the value of good word-of-mouth and assume bad press cost you at least that much. My top 23 referrals (meaning total dollar value of project closed off a referral) came from prospects who never hired me in the first place. (They referred me anyway, because I didn't use manipulative bullshit to convince them to hire me when it actually did not make sense.) So for the sake of quantifying bad word-of-mouth, let's determine the dollar value of your biggest referral ever and assume that dishonesty cost you at least one referral that size. Call this one "Lost Referral Cost."

Totals: Failed Training Cost + Turnover Cost + Sales Resistance Cost + Lying Prospects Cost + Lost Referral Cost = Cost of Manipulation

Fact: Honesty never stops working, because, well, there's no trickery to finally see through. So a single investment in training and mentoring of each sales manager and salesperson will work forever. (Not a total recovery of Failed Training Cost, but definitely a huge savings.)

Fact: Most salespeople love using honesty in sales. It fits them like a warm blanket and energizes them instead of beating them down. Some will still quit your company, either because they really aren't suited to sales at all, or because they're the naturally dishonest few, but it will be far less turnover than what most companies experience today. (To be fair, let's say an 80 percent recovery of Turnover Cost.)

Fact: Honesty eliminates sales resistance and turns an otherwise adversarial buy-sell process into a collaborate exploration. So you will never again lose a sale because of resistance that your actions create. (You'll still lose some that manipulation might have closed. So to be fair, let's guess at a 75 percent recovery of your Sales Resistance Cost number.)

Fact: The 96 percent of the buying population who are basically honest stop lying to salespeople who aren't trying to trick them into buying no mater what. (Four percent of the population is dishonest, so at best, you'll recover only 96 percent of your Lying Prospects Cost.)

Fact: If you sell honestly, even when you don't close a deal you'll create a friend, and, quite frequently, produce referrals. (I guarantee you'll get back more than your Lost Referral Cost number.)

Final Fact: I can't call it Honest Selling without pointing out that for most companies, switching to honesty in sales can be painful and arduous -- actually increasing turnover and decreasing results during the transition. But I've never seen a company make the switch and fail to drastically improve its long-term bottom line. So while you probably won't realize the bottom-line impact in the first year or so, you will realize it forever after you complete the transformation.

Hard, bottom-line numbers married to an internal desire for honesty from both salesperson and prospect. That's why sales manipulation is doomed to a slow, miserable death.


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

P.S. I reposted this article, because I believe FeedBlitz failed to deliver it the first time. Sorry if it came to you twice.

November 12, 2007

Well, At Least It's Better Than Zero

I just went to monster.com and did a search for open sales positions.

I left the keyword field blank.

In the "Select Category" field I picked "Sales."

I left the "Select Job Location" field alone, so it would return all locations.

I got 5,000 results. (I'm guessing by the number there are more openings and 5,000 is a programmed limit, but we'll use that number anyway.)

I went back to the start and added the keyword "honest" (without the quotes) to my search.

It returned 481 sales positions out of 5,000 where honesty was a factor in the description.

I went back and tried the search again. This time I used two keywords, "honest" and "ethical."

The results dropped to 131 out of 5,000.

Based on this simple test, only 9.6 percent of the people filling a sales position include honesty as a factor in their search, and only 2.6 percent value both honesty and ethics.

That's a sad, sad commentary. But on the bright side, at least it wasn't zero.


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

November 10, 2007

Look Out Salesdrips, Here I Come

When I turned 35, Dad said, "You're 35? Damn! You're almost old enough to have an opinion."

At the time, I chuckled with him at the humor of the comment but also secretly thought "You arrogant, old fart."

Now I'm on the doorstep to 50 and I find myself, yet again, wondering "When is that old fart ever going to be wrong?"

No, I'm not saying people 35 and under don't have opinions. It's just that when I look back on the opinions I had at 25, 35, 45, I realize for the first time why the wisest people in the world always have wrinkles. It simply takes a great many years of opinions, ideas, successes and failures for most of us to finally understand our calling -- our true value to the world -- and until you understand your true calling your wisdom can't find its voice.

Today is November 10, 2007, and I am elated to report that it took only 17,519 days for me to find my true calling:

I will spend my professional life bringing honesty and integrity back to the sales profession and transforming the lives of salespeople around the world.

This may not sound terribly new to those who have known me for years through Honest Selling. After all, I've been teaching people to sell without manipulation for a long time. But those who know me best will spot the core revelation, and I'm sure those who treasure me as much as I treasure them will get goosebumps for me as they grin.

So please consider this post my announcement to the world that every salesdrip on the planet is now fair game. Whether you teach sales that includes lies and manipulation, tell your salespeople to "do whatever it takes" or use lies and manipulation to trick your prospects, you now have a bulls eye on your back.

Sure, there is safety in numbers. I (as of today) am but one voice, and you (you know who you are) are hidden safely among millions. But I have a few arrows in my quiver that will gradually tip the scale:

  • People like me, because I'm not a manipulative sleazeball.
  • The craptics of traditional salesmanship are the most cowardly form of bully behavior, and I loathe bullies.
  • I have a unique talent for organizing crowds.
  • Buyers control the fate of all salespeople, and it's easy to teach them how to spot craptics.

I will transform the way selling is done.

I will bring honor back to this profession.

I will expose those who make "salesperson" a dirty word.

I will make salesdrips extinct.

Look out salesdrips, here I come.

 

salesdrip \'salz-drip\ n 1 : dull or boorish person who engages in promoting and selling goods or services by lying to, bullying, cheating or manipulating prospects; also: sales-clown, -dullard, -dummy, -dunce, -idiot


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

November 08, 2007

Thinking Outside The Bulb

Cindy and I are going green.

Actually, we've always been fairly conservationy -- thermostat at 67 degrees in the winter and 80 in the summer; open our windows whenever we can tolerate the heat or cold; recycle everything we can and have organized most of our family members to do the same; don't water the lawn no matter what; and so forth. But in a recent decision to offset the blatant natural resources abuse of some of our other family members (you know who you are), we decided to take green to a new level at the Wagner's.

One thing we did recently was head to the store to get an entire set of new, energy efficient light bulbs. One such bulb is the General Electric, Soft White 40 -- saves $24 per bulb in energy costs; last 8 times longer than a 40 watt regular soft white bulb.

We bought the 2 bulb value pack, brought it home, installed both lights and then took a look at the clear plastic packaging to find the recycle triangle and number.

Guess what? No recycle triangle. No number. Designed specifically to be thrown away after the bulbs are removed.

I'm left wondering, "When will the light bulb go on at GE?"


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

November 01, 2007

Not Everyone Is Broken

This past Tuesday I had the opportunity to hear Michael Gerber, author of The E-Myth, present his 90-minute speech "Awakening the Entrepreneur in You -- The E-Myth Revisited." Having read and enjoyed his book several years ago, I was excited in anticipation of learning some new things and glad to finally see the man in person.

Michael was a very engaging speaker who is clearly passionate about his message and his dream. His presentation was well-crafted, spoke to the heart of the problem some entrepreneurs face and included just the right mix of humor to make his points and just the right level of appropriate vulgarity to be real and effective.

Gerber's main message, however, falls woefully short of reality for the vast majority of entrepreneurs. He seems to believe that unless your approach to entrepreneurship is structured as though you were building a business to the scale of McDonnalds or Starbucks, you are broken ("a lunatic" in fact) and are in need of repair. Indeed, he is even trying to redefine the very word entrepreneur -- labeling anyone who does not follow his methods a business owner instead.

I'm sorry Mr. Gerber, but an entrepreneur is "one who organizes, manages and assumes the risks of a business or enterprise," and that includes the hands-in-the-dough pie maker just as exactly as it does the CEO running a global franchise.

The simple fact is that baking pies and running a pie franchise are two entirely different jobs, and unless you're doing the job that fits your passion you will fail. So if your passion is implementing your craft, be it pie baking, applying the law, public speaking, healing others or training dolphins, then you are not broken and you do not need to be fixed. And you should laugh in the face of anyone who would tell you otherwise.

If, on the other hand, your passion is to run a company from afar, building the systems that will allow others to implement the craft, then by all means contact Gerber or his team for help. I'm convinced they have a massive amount of experience in this realm. In fact, in my capacity as founder of Yellow-Tie -- a nonprofit trade association with international goals -- I'll be contacting them myself. (Of course, they may not want me as a client if they read this!)


Gill E. Wagner, Sage of Selling
President of Honest Selling
Founder of the Yellow-Tie International Business Development Association

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